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Home arrow Saturn's Corner - Astro-Counseling arrow Life in Vicious Circle


Life in Vicious Circle E-mail
Written by Harry Waldauer   
Thursday, 20 December 2007

QUESTION: Please help me as it feels like I am giving up on my marriage. I want to know what I must do to make my husband understand what he is doing to me mentally. We argue a lot and it seems like my life is moving in a vicious circle; everything happens over and over again. I suffered physical abuse for 5 years, now he only abuses me verbally. However, I will not accept his verbal abuse even though he becomes aggressive. I refuse to keep quiet. We sat down and discussed 'love me, love me not' and came to the conclusion that we do love each other and really need each other. Which is why I need your help.

Hi client # 9

Thank you for your email, I hope that I can assist you with your dilemma. You have written me a very detailed letter which immediately brings me to the realization that I may not even need astrology to help you. My immediate reaction was 'get the hell out of the relationship' and I had not even looked at your chart. You gave it away when you stated 'we came to the conclusion that we love each other and really NEED each other.'

You are telling me that the relationship is based on needs from both sides rather than a mutually empowering relationship. We cannot build on a relationship if we have not discovered who we are ourselves. It is all fine and well to get married, only to find out at a later stage that we are really not compatible at all. It is so often the case that people try to fulfill the 'empty' parts of themselves by marrying someone who will 'fill' that void. Sadly, marriage partners are not counselors, and subsequently disappointment sets in when the partner does not fill that void. However, before I assume to assess your situation, let us look at the chart.

Birth Chart
Birth Chart
You are a Gemini Sun with both the Moon and Ascendant in Capricorn. The Moon in Capricorn tones down the usually frivolous nature of Gemini, giving you structure and boundaries. This does, of course, not make it any easier for you, especially as a child when you were curious about everything. People probably discouraged you to follow your Gemini way of doing things. The psychology there is one of restriction, subsequent hardships and possibly even depression; something which is never easy for a Gemini Sun. You also have 12 squares as opposed to 4 trines which presents added obstacles. Yet, your soul chose this journey and one has to wonder why? You have a mutable grand cross involving the planets Saturn, Pluto/Uranus conjunction, South Node and the Jupiter/North Node conjunction. Saturn is your chart ruler which thus plays an important role in your chart. Interestingly enough, Saturn is also part of a water grand trine. What is going on?

In a brief synopsis; what this is telling me is that your soul has chosen to face a difficult challenge which may be alleviated to some extent through the grand trine (involving the planets Neptune/Saturn/Venus – emotional detachment perhaps). The grand cross involves a spiritual task which you need to address. The cross is very karmic and includes karmic planets like Saturn, Pluto, and the nodes. You have both the spiritual signs (Pisces and Sagittarius) together with the planet of spirituality, namely Jupiter as part of that grand cross. The message is clear; you have to go to the depth of despair in order to rise again as a transformed human being. Your partner is the tool through which this is facilitated and therefore tests are thrown in your pa t h enabling you to rise above the mundane, materialistic issues which you are facing. Gemini can be very loose and the grand cross has forced you to face reality, responsibility and the need not to use others for security reasons. You will use men to get either the required financial security or nurturing and are subsequently left wondering why this is not working out for you. Compromise is required to transform in co-operative relationships, and whatever your motives are for getting into relationships, they will be killed off if you get involved in for the wrong reasons!

In addition, you have both Pluto AND Uranus in your 8th. House which challenges you to reassess your motives in your relationships. You also have your Venus, the planet of relationships, at a critical degree, namely at 12 deg 42 min of Cancer, a cardinal sign. This suggests that "frustration is due to a refusal to conform." Yet, you have the ability to change that if you wish because Venus forms part of a grand trine and is therefore in a manageable situation.

What is it that you are not facing when it comes to relationships? Sorry for my candor, but it is imperative that I tell you how I see it in the chart, the ultimate choice that you make is yours to live with. You also mention that your husband used to abuse you physically and still abuses you on a mental level. This is simply unacceptable! Abuse of any living thing, be it people or animals, is a sin against one's personal integrity and a sin against God. I cannot understand how you interpret this as 'love' because to love a person, one could never abuse them. This shows me that you need to re-evaluate your role in the relationship and ask yourself; "What is holding me back from moving forward? Why am I allowing this abuse?" Is it due to financial commitments, is it your lack of self worth, or are you afraid to venture into the unknown? You will have to be very honest with yourself and make a decision as to whether staying in this marriage will benefit you and your husband in the long run. Certainly you must see the signs! Unfortunately, I just cannot foresee him making the first move. With the Sun in Libra, he will leave that up to you.

I strongly recommend that you and your husband go for marriage counseling which may shed some light on your situation. Please understand that some people are meant to be together while others simply are not. I do realize though that this is never easy to deal with. Relationships are challenging for most of us. People come into your life for a reason, season or lifetime, I just wonder which one is it that applies to you? You chose a 'lifetime' by getting married. Please, visualize your life in 20 years from now . . . Do you still see yourself with your husband . . . ? If yes, that is fine. However, if you do not see a future together, just remember that by then you may be too old to get out of the relationship.

The choice is yours.

I wish you well,

With gratitude

Harry.

Editor’s note: Lifeline is a voluntary organization dedicated to free counseling, ranging from rape, abuse and suicide counseling to trauma, HIV and AIDS counseling.

The National 24 hour line number is:

0861 – 322 – 322

NOTE ASTROLOGERS:
Are there astrologers out there who can give us more insight for this client? If you can compile an answer, please email me at .

I will then pass on your version to client # 9 (I will pass it on, due to confidentiality).

The birth data is as follows:
16 June 1965
7.50 pm
Johannesburg

If you want to use transits, the question was asked via email on 7 June 2007 @ 13.53 hrs. in Johannesburg. I have used the Placidus house system and true Node.

Harry Waldauer is a Johannesburg based astrologer and is the principal member of the Waldauer School of Astrology. Harry graduated from the Thorburn School of Astrology and has been involved in astrology since 1998.He is currently completing his Reiki Masters and is an active Lifeline counsellor. He can be contacted at: 084-724-9004 (C) or (011) 453-8327 (H). or Email:

Lalita Bijker has been a serious student of astrology for the past 10 years and recently decided to consolidate her knowledge by studying. Lalita can be contacted at: page 23

Last Updated ( Friday, 21 December 2007 )
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